kkling77
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Fwiw, I have been working on a clarified version of the heli flight rules. This is a draft version. There may be changes.
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- Helicopters must take off and land from the center of the runway. Putting the helicopter on the edge of the runway (just past the white line) does not provide enough seperation space between the helicopter and the pits. (This is simular to the expectation that fixed wing aircraft will take off and land roughly in the middle of the runway and should not be trying to take off and land right on the runway edge). This means that all helicopters must be carried out to the center of the runway prior to take off.
- All flying of helicopters must take place beyond the far edge of the runway, over the tall grass. This speicifically includes all extended hovering.
- After taking off from the runway, all helicopters must move directly outwards over the tall grass or to the left and then out over the tall grass. (This avoids having a helicopter depart directly across in front of other pilots in the pilot boxes).
- When landing, helicopters will always approach from the left, and land to the left of the flight boxes. (This avoids crossing directly in front of the other pilot boxes at a low altitude and close in).
- Acrobatic takeoffs (high rate of ascent, piretting, etc) shall only be done at the far left end of the runway, and only after the helicopter has taken off normally, flown, and landed at the extreme end of the runway.
- Autorotations and other acrobatic landings shall be performed as a normal landing, ie, only from the left, and not extending to the right of the helicopter pilot box.
- The helipad is for hovering only. No transitional flight or forward flight is allowed in the helipad area. The space is too small for such activity.
- When flying at the helipad, the pilot will stand with their back towards the parking lot. At no time shall the helicopter be closer to the parking lot than the pilot.
Why are people getting so bent out of shape about helicopters in general when it is in fact just one individual who people are really having a problem with? A helicopter CAN be operated just as safely as an airplane. The proposed "rules" above seem to be overkill, and in some cases absolutely ridiculous.
For instance, "All flying of helicopters must take place beyond the far edge of the runway, over the tall grass. This speicifically includes all extended hovering." I agree with this rule, however isn't this also a rule for fixed wing aircraft also? Just about every time I am at the field I see this rule broken at least a handful of times. In fact, Mr. president, I have actually seen you fly down the middle of the runway with your combat plane hit the propeller on the ground and deadstick on the runway. Afterwards you were so excited, exclaiming to others "did you see that?" If this rule is going to be enforced, than it should be enforced for EVERYBODY!! If not, than let's make it a free for all and see who can fly the fastest, lowest to the ground, and closest to the flight boxes.
The next rule, "After taking off from the runway, all helicopters must move directly outwards over the tall grass or to the left and then out over the tall grass. (This avoids having a helicopter depart directly across in front of other pilots in the pilot boxes)." Airplanes take off left and right don't they? What is the difference with a helicopter taking off left or right if it is in the center of the field? This means that we should make all fixed wing aircraft make a 90 degree turnout over the high grass as soon as they lift off so as not to cross in front of other pilots.
The next rule, "When landing, helicopters will always approach from the left, and land to the left of the flight boxes. (This avoids crossing directly in front of the other pilot boxes at a low altitude and close in)." So that means if there is a 15 mph wind from the left you still expect me to land from the left? How ridiculous does this sound. Personally I tend to land anything I fly into the wind. Again, why is it an issue to cross in front of the pilot boxes at the centerline of the field. You say "at a low altitude and close in." That isn't any closer than where fixed wing aircraft are landing.
Next rule, "Acrobatic takeoffs (high rate of ascent, piretting, etc) shall only be done at the far left end of the runway, and only after the helicopter has taken off normally, flown, and landed at the extreme end of the runway." Should we limit fixed wing aircraft to a certain 'rate of ascent' also? That's the beauty of a helicopter, YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT UP! Why is this a safety issue? Does this mean that fixed wing aircraft are not allowed to pull vertical after takeoff anymore because that is a "high rate of ascent"?
I'll say it again, address the person causing the problems. Don't make ridiculous rules that don't address the true problem.
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. But loading blades with negative and then slamming them full positive is just asking for a devestating disaster. Sorry don't agree with that KK. There's a lot of built up energy in those blades. 
. Today Ralph saw him taxiing into the pits, when Ralph told him about it he started with the same crap he does when anyone chastises him about flying in the pits. This guy is unsafe! He has fallen out while flying flew almost into Keith’s head and others, planting planes in the parking lot etc. I believe it is time to put this issue to rest on RCU and deal with it internally and the club officer level. 
. Besides, I would be a real @$$ as President. I would have kicked the old fart out when he insulted me , so I called him a curmudgeon. Dumb @$$ didn't even know what it was and he was insinuating I was stupid because of my race! If he wasn't old I would have threatened him like the 
In any case, they're not warbirds and will be dismissed by some as simply "aerobats." Welcome to the west side of the tracks. 
