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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/16/2009 2:12 AM   
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Can any of the Airtronics team that are testing the radio tell us what the tranny feels like in your hands? I have the 8 channel 2.4 and it feels like a plastic toy but I knew that going in, but for 200.00 it's a heck of a sport radio with a solid link even in the Az heat we deal with.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 4:02 AM   
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The TX is thicker and a little bulkier as the pictures lead you to believe.  The sticks feel a lot better as they are double BB and the radio balances dead level on the strap hook as it is balanced with the 6 cell NIMH battery that is std in the radio.  The side sliders are easy to get to.  The back is a matte finish so your hands don't slip around and the menus are quick to get in and out of. 

Your experience may vary depending on how large your hands are.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 1:23 PM   
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Not sure if this has already been covered;  Anyone know if this TX uses an internal memory backup batt.?....


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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 2:13 PM   
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The TX is thicker and a little bulkier as the pictures lead you to believe.  The sticks feel a lot better as they are double BB and the radio balances dead level on the strap hook as it is balanced with the 6 cell NIMH battery that is std in the radio.  The side sliders are easy to get to.  The back is a matte finish so your hands don't slip around and the menus are quick to get in and out of. 

Your experience may vary depending on how large your hands are.

TM


My Stylus battery pack is removable for charging or quick replacement.  Will the SD-10G have that feature?


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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 2:47 PM   
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Thanks TM,
Can't wait to get my hand on one. I've been holding off updating my JR to 2.4 and with all the features packed inyo this baby it should be great for pattern.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 3:55 PM   
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[The sticks feel a lot better as they are double BB
quote]   Even better than I would have expected!...


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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 4:10 PM   
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I just heard Airtronics is working on extending the range of the 10G for glider pilots (not that the current range is inadequate, glider pilots just like to soar with extended range). Should be out late May...


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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 4:24 PM   
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Just noticed the SD-10G can only use another SD-10G for a trainer box.  So the 8000s are no good for trainer hook up. Cant imagine why. That really is a poor show!



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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 5:06 PM   
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The TX is thicker and a little bulkier as the pictures lead you to believe.  The sticks feel a lot better as they are double BB and the radio balances dead level on the strap hook as it is balanced with the 6 cell NIMH battery that is std in the radio.  The side sliders are easy to get to.  The back is a matte finish so your hands don't slip around and the menus are quick to get in and out of. 

Your experience may vary depending on how large your hands are.

TM


My Stylus battery pack is removable for charging or quick replacement.  Will the SD-10G have that feature?



The battery is removed by opening the door and pulling the plug then slipping the battery out.  The battery is not modular like the Stylus but I am using a 2s lipo and the NIMH in mine and I can tell you that doing the Lipo was very easy where as with the Stylus you would have to do the VXR battery or build a lipo setup in an old nicad box.

There is no battery for memory.

As far as the trainer issue is concerned, it is unfortunate but the RDS8000 just is not going to be compatible due to the huge technology leap between the 10 and the older 8 channel.  This just can't be helped unless we want to go back to what we were using before so I can't really understand why this would be "a poor show".   The new radio is much faster responding over all channels and there is no way that Sanwa was able to make it compatible trainer wise right out of the box.  Going forward there may be something that can be done in the way of an interface system but no will commit to that right now. 

Just to be clear about where ATX is going, there is a ton of new stuff on the table getting ready to hit the market in a short period of time.  There is the SD10G, Interface software, USB Cable, Stylus module, 6 and 7 channel RX's, new digital servos and the M11 X is brand new in the last 90 days.  We have all been busy helping with manuals, testing, flying and working around weather in an effort to get these products out there with little or no chance of a product recall right after launch. 

I for one would like to have total compatibly with prior legacy products going forward but that is proving difficult to do.  ATX doesn't want to leave anyone behind but some things had to be sacrificed.  ATX wanted every pilot to enjoy a super fast responding radio, not just heli pilots.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/17/2009 9:26 PM   
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 T Moore,

 So for know I am better off sticking with my 8103 to train with in my trainer until a "trainer box" is available? Will that be happening any time soon? Not that it a huge deal for me as I am all set up with the equipment I train with but if I make the leap back to Sanwa I would like to streamline eventually by switching everything to the same brand. I have a lot of JR stuff to unload if I go for theis new 10G. With the release of receivers being scheduled for August this will be a mix and match year for me between my JR stuff and my new Sanwa gear. RC Buyers Warehouse has one coming in and will call me when it arrives. Its a 2+ hour trip for me to drive to southern NH to see it. I hope I like it.

 Other than purchasing another 10G TX is there anything you can use now as a trainer box with a 10G? It was 40 bucks to buy the JR trainer box I have now.  I works with my old 347, 8103, a 9303 on 72 and it will work with a 12X.  It wont follow anything but a 4 channel set up but thats all I need, just a basic 4 channel trainer box for a trainer.

 One other question, will extra 10 channel receivers be readily available for the folks purchasing 10Gs ? I am sure everyone has more than 1 plane to retrofit as I do.

Thanks again, you are giving great "traige " support to those of us hungry for info.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/18/2009 3:56 AM   
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As far as I know the 10channel RX's will be available right out of the chute, so that shouldn't be an issue.  As far as the trainer box is concerned I will have to consult with the powers that be for guidance.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/18/2009 3:39 PM   
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T Moore,

 Thanks for whatever input you can give to us on the trainer box and our ability to use the 10G for training purposes without having to purchase another 10G. If it wasn’t for those patient folks who stand for hours on end with newcomers at the field our hobby wouldn’t have a future. We add about 6 new flying members each summer here in northern VT. We currently have 3 intro pilots and the club supplies all of the aircraft, engines and fuel. Its 100% free to learn through our club. Right now all 4 trainers we have are on JR equipment. I can stick with that for now but I would rather switch if I move to the 10G. Not a deal breaker for me but a concern if a trainer box won’t be available. Training new pilots is our sports future. I know Airtronics understands that. I do still have an old "championship" Sanwa with the round plug trainer cord and a trainer box. That was the first radio I had with expo and it still works perfectly ...................  Thanks Sanwa..................

 

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/18/2009 5:28 PM   
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Airtronics are good radios.  I've had 4 of them and they've all worked well.  Too bad this one is so late coming to the market.

Re: Black radios?  I'm sick of black; black TVs, black remote controls, black telephones, and on and on.  Trouble with black is that you can't see the darn controls unless you use a flashlight and a magnifying glass.   Guess I'm getting old.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/19/2009 9:59 PM   
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TMooreATX :

OK I understand the technology, but the RD8000 is not an old radio (though it may be based on one). The 8000 has not been on sale very long. They are 2.4Ghz transmitters and the receivers are compatible with the 10G (good!). Is it unreasonable to expect some level of  use as a trainer box with the 10G?  Airtronics has given users several reasons to switch to them. Trainer compatibility would have been another one.

It is a poor show because, for me at least, it was unexpected. I figured I'd upgrade to the 10G and, rather than have the 8000 transmitter stuck in the cupboard, I'd have a use for it.  The incompatibility is disappointing.  I'm not going to buy 2 10Gs so that one can be a trainer.  I dont understand why you think I should pay double for a trainer function for this new technology that is so advanced it cant work with technology from a year ago. 4 channels is 4 channels.

Vented enough! I really liked the looks of the radio. I guess I just expected too much.








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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/19/2009 10:12 PM   
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TMooreATX :

OK I understand the technology, but the RD8000 is not an old radio (though it may be based on one). The 8000 has not been on sale very long. They are 2.4Ghz transmitters and the receivers are compatible with the 10G (good!). Is it unreasonable to expect some level of  use as a trainer box with the 10G?  Airtronics has given users several reasons to switch to them. Trainer compatibility would have been another one.

It is a poor show because, for me at least, it was unexpected. I figured I'd upgrade to the 10G and, rather than have the 8000 transmitter stuck in the cupboard, I'd have a use for it.  The incompatibility is disappointing.  I'm not going to buy 2 10Gs so that one can be a trainer.  I dont understand why you think I should pay double for a trainer function for this new technology that is so advanced it cant work with technology from a year ago. 4 channels is 4 channels.

Vented enough! I really liked the looks of the radio. I guess I just expected too much.




The SD 10G updates at a much higher rate than the RDS so from a trainer standpoint the two are not compatible.  Unfortunately this is the nature of new tech and 2.4 is in a state of flux at the minute with regard to ATX.  I can tell you in testing that there have been esc's, governors and gyros that didn't work with the new SD10 and are having to be updated to work with the new technology.   I personally would like the two TX's to be trainer compatible but at the present they aren't.  That's not to say at some future point this situation can't be resolved but at this time, they aren't compatible. 

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/19/2009 10:13 PM   
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Well guys, here it is........I just took the plunge and ordered one.  $499.00 from RC Buyers in NH. After 20+ years with JR I'm going to go back to Sanwa. I would still like to have a few answers to my questions but I didn’t want to risk being the only guy standing when the music stopped if you know what I mean. I wanted one. I do believe it’s a better set up than the 9303 after talking to a few guys over the last few days. In life there are drivers and spectators and I don’t like to sit and watch. For me the trainer issue is a big deal and I am hopeful that my concern doesn’t go unnoticed ( it wont will it?? ). I hope we are given an affordable "trainer box" option by next spring. I can hang with my JR stuff for now to train but I will need some new receivers and the trainer box available as soon as possible. Now that I threw in my hard earned cash I have a right to have higher expectations. I just let my wallet do the talking !!!!

 This has been very informative and I would like to thank those who answered questions for me. I wasn’t here to pull anyone’s chain, I truly wanted to buy one and now I have one on order. Let’s hope it’s a keeper. I still wish I had a %&*$&%# manual to look at !!!!!

 

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/20/2009 3:14 AM   
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TMooreATX :

Thanks TM. That is more encouraging. Is there any kind of spec. on the trainer plug interface? Shouldnt be hard to double the pulse rate of the 8000 with an adapter.


Eplane65:

I love black. Makes it more sophisticated looking. In the sun, it doesnt shine back at you. Did a taste test with my family, Airtronics against silver competition and the black Airtronics came out as the more expensive looking...........Just how old are you anyway?...............g l a s s e s  might be something to think about? They are like a magnifying glass only there's two of um, one for each eye...... We all get there ya know......  



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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/20/2009 3:15 AM   
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<grin> you me too...that manual will be a really high download once it gets onto th site I bet! 

Soon as I finish the 1/4 scale motor glider the 10G wil be my next large purchase


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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/20/2009 3:45 AM   
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TMooreATX :

Thanks TM. That is more encouraging. Is there any kind of spec. on the trainer plug interface? Shouldnt be hard to double the pulse rate of the 8000 with an adapter.


Eplane65:

I love black. Makes it more sophisticated looking. In the sun, it doesnt shine back at you. Did a taste test with my family, Airtronics against silver competition and the black Airtronics came out as the more expensive looking...........Just how old are you anyway?...............g l a s s e s  might be something to think about? They are like a magnifying glass only there's two of um, one for each eye...... We all get there ya know......  




There is no trainer spec on the output jack as yet but I will ask.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 2:58 PM   
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 Today is the 27th. If the release date of this radio is truly the 29th ( I sure hope so ) then they must be built and sitting somewhere all boxed up, ready to ship to hobby shops and distributors? That said the training capabilities must be known by someone in the Airtronics world. I know I wont be able to train with it when I get it because I have no intention of purchasing a second 10G to train with, but I would like to know what I can expect to have to do to train with it ie: trainer box info.

 Any info would be helpful on this question.

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 4:13 PM   
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 I just received an e-mail telling me that the release date of the 29th of May is not a good date anymore. The TX will be released some time in June but nobody will commit to "when" in June that may be. 

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 8:48 PM   
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Has the manual been released yet?

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 8:55 PM   
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 No, it has not. No manual release date, No solid release date for the 10G itself and no good info on the trainer system.  Penny for your thoughts?

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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 11:48 PM   
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TMooreATX,

Is the manual the reason that the release date been pushed back? Cuase if that is the only reason I will plop the money on the table right now!



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RE: MAN reports on Airtronics SD-10G 2.4Ghz radio system - 5/27/2009 11:53 PM   
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I just talked to a representative at Hobby People and she told me that the SD-10G is scheduled to ship from Sanwa to Airtronics by the end of this week.  They expect to have their initial order with the next 2 weeks.

Just for the record she indicated that they had orders for about  half of the first shipment.  Should be plenty available.

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