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RE: Your biggest - 6/18/2009 1:27 AM   
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I saw once Quique setting the radio for a new Ptihon 100cc, and he uses different expo (more to the right) I think it was because of P factor, to get the same feel on both KE, I know it is not a pattern plane but the guy sure knows how to setup a plane!

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RE: Your biggest - 6/18/2009 6:12 PM   
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Situational awareness - putting my head in the cockpit works best and I feel "in the zone"

Inverted rudder- sometimes the words selected can correlate to individuals differently.  When my head isn't in the cockpit I move the rudder toward the nose or tail if I perceived one of them needs to move out (away) to true the parallel flight path.

Of course the trick to all corrections is to identify the need before anyone else sees the error

I also think Chad is right that long practice doesn't mean good practice.   Recognize when you're mind is not working and stop practicing until you're ready.



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RE: Your biggest - 6/18/2009 9:48 PM   
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Biggest "AHA" moments in your pattern career?

The concept that you learn the most when you try to teach some one else.  I was trying to teach the student how to use a stick plane...

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RE: Your biggest - 6/19/2009 1:33 AM   
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That's one sexy little stick plane.


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RE: Your biggest - 6/19/2009 3:22 AM   
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Rusty,
  Too bad you weren't successful with that student.  If pattern contests has pilots like that, they would be very popular events, and even judging would be fun........

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RE: Your biggest - 6/19/2009 12:34 PM   
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I've had so many AHA moments they are impossible to list, but here's a shortlist:

- When i first tried to fly an intermediate pattern. It's easier to fly a pattern than to make stuff up as you go!
- When I first tried an APC 18x10 sport. It just pulls SO much more than a 17x12.
- My first flight with a 2-meter
- When I first managed to find THE center of gravity: dead straight dives, easy knife-edge and just a tad of down-elevator while inverted
- First time with a pro pilot calling, giving me hints during flight
- When I learned to hold full power going over the top of half reverse cuban 8's, not pulling back to idle too soon. the radius is actually round
- the day I realized I have not crashed due to pilot error since I started practicing schedules
- The day i realized all those hours spent setting up controls, rods, tightening bolts, adjusting and re-adjusting engines AT HOME causes me to have zero frustration at the flying field and thus getting hassle-free practice
- When I realized I spend more time maintaing planes than building them (because no plane is ever perfect first time around) and when you stop crashing you actually have to service the planes regularly.


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RE: Your biggest - 6/19/2009 12:36 PM   
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Anothe one: The day I was shown how steep "45 degrees" actually is

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RE: Your biggest - 6/19/2009 5:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jon Wold
Anothe one: The day I was shown how steep "45 degrees" actually is

And even steeper when you look at it under 60 degrees at the end of the box.

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RE: Your biggest - 6/20/2009 6:40 AM   
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yep, that's a true one. For those wanting to know just how steep a 45 on the corner is, draw it on paper, and then hold it up to where the maneuvre should be, by holding it out and to the side, you'll see that you're probably a lot flatter than you need to be



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RE: Your biggest - 6/20/2009 11:30 PM   
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My biggest AHA was that the left stick moved left and right. If moved at the wrong moment imposes a very powerful force on the airframe that all judges will see even with their eyes closed...


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RE: Your biggest - 6/22/2009 6:33 AM   
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There is no greater force in the world than wrong rudder. Someone has that as their sig, I subsribe to that newsletter.


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RE: Your biggest - 6/22/2009 10:14 PM   
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Great thread; some old familiar names posting and very timely!
I took last Sunday off from flying, for Father´s Day but also to spend some time thinking about the basics.
Reading this thread showed me how much I had forgotten, or had become lazy and sloppy about.
You might say that has alone qualifies as my latest AHA moment!

Which took me back to a QQ Somanzini clinic I attended back in 2003. Luckily I kept notes.
These were like concentrated AHA moments over the two days of the clinic. Some have been covered here already.
But I will summarize for my own good.
1) Check set-up: CG, seal gaps and check control throws
2) Wings level. Watch for the outside wing tip.
3) Correct right thrust/down thrust
4) Throttle control and constant speed, especially when entering a manoever
5) Rudder control (upright/inverted, coming and going away - push the nose, push the tail)
6) Lines and geometry
7) Rolling inputs
8) Snap inputs
9) Radio mixes
10) How to practice, how to train. Know what you are going to work on before you get to the field. Take notes.

That got my attention back in 2003. Just as this thread got my attention yesterday.
Dean Papas´ Pattern column in Flying Models is also full AHA stuff.
Don Ransay´s judging columns in the K-factor were good too.

Thanks to all!!




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RE: Your biggest - 6/23/2009 10:27 PM   
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To learn, some 4 years ago, that crosswind compensation during radiuses is mostly done with ailerons. Bernd Beschorner was so kind to come to one of our local competitions and to comment our flights and help us improve. Thanks again, Bernd!

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RE: Your biggest - 6/24/2009 1:49 AM   
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Fantastic replies dudes! I am learning more here for free than I could in months on my own!


Anyways, here's my tiny addition from today. . .

I was having trouble coming out of my stall turns on the right angle, altitude, and with the appropriate curve so I started climbing higher on my verticals and then focusing on where I wanted to END UP on my pull outs. Suddenly I was dramatically improving the precision of my lines.


That's it for me today . . . not much . . . but just a tid-bit for beginners like me




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