RCU Review: Kyosho Twin Force


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    Contributed by: Larry Eddy | Published: February 2005 | Views: 72588 | email icon Email this Article


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    Distributed Exclusively in the U.S.A. and Canada by:
    Great Planes Model Distr.
    P.O. Box 9021
    Champaign, IL 61826-9021



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    Ratings

    Durability
    Handling
    Overall Performance
    Fun
    Factor
    Looks
    Price
    Manual

    Hits

    • Pretty Quick Build
    • Huge FUN FACTOR!!
    • Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'
    • Hop-ups available
    • Wheelies, Wheelies & more WHEELIES!

    Misses

    • Center of gravity, tips over pretty easily at 3/4 throttle or higher.
    • Parts aren't always in the bag you would expect. You have to do some digging to find them sometimes.
    Introduction

    "Bigger isn't always better", what a myth!

    The Kyosho Twin Force is a 1/8 scale bundle of torque and all out fun. What RC'er in their right mind wouldn't want to have a wheelie poppin', mud slingin', rock climin', chain drivin', flippin' and flyin' monster truck in their garage? The Twin Force (TF) is all that and more. Did I mention the TF is 4-Wheel Drive!

    Read on and I'll attempt to tell and show you why!


    Specifications



    Manufacturer: Kyosho
    Kit Name: Twin Force
    Stock Number: KYOC0103
    Length: 21.6 in (550mm)
    Width: 16.5 in (420mm)
    Height: 10 in (260mm)
    Wheelbase: 12.4 in (315mm)
    Front/Rear Track: 12 in (310mm)
    Weight: 9.9 lb (4.5kg)
    Includes: two 550 motors
    Requires: 2-channel radio w/high-torque steering servo, ESC w/BEC (14.4V 160A min), two 7.2V battery packs, charger

    Additional Components Used:

    Radio: Futuba Mangum 2PL
    ESC: Traxxas EVX 14.4V model 3014 (manufactured by Novak)
    Steering Servo: Hobbico Command CS-70MG
    Batteries Used: 2- Team Orion Super Duty plus 3000mAh Ni-MH


    My Twin Force with it's RCU paint scheme

    The Twin Force comes with a clear Lexan body, the same one that they supply with the TF's brother, the nitro-powered Mad Force. (Read the RCU Review of the Mad Force) Kyosho includes a flashy updated graphics sheet and window masks for easy painting.

    I decided to paint mine in an RCU green color scheme. I used some of the included decals, a couple from RC Driver and printed a couple of my own and applied them to the inside of the body with some XXX Main Lexan Picture Glue. I was impressed with my first attempt.

    Assembly

    Contents of the box
    Accessories & Hardware
    Instructions
    The Twin Force showed up at my door and within minutes I was tearing it open to see all the goodies inside. To be honest, it didn't look that exciting at first. It was just a big box of about 10 bags of plastic parts and nuts and bolts. As I started to remove the parts bags from the box, it didn't take my imagination long to picture what fun this kit was going to be to build and then take out to back yard and thrash on.
    6.5” x 4.3” real rubber tires with directional V-tread
    Size Comparison to my
    Team Losi Truck
    Twin 550 X Speed Motors

    One of the first things I noticed was the size of the rubber tires. There were four 6.5" x 4.3" real rubber tires with a directional V-tread traction pattern. According to the instructions, you are supposed to assemble the tires last, but I couldn't help myself and did it first. I wrapped the foam inserts around the molded, chromed centerline rims and applied some rubber cement to the ends. After I allowed them to dry, I installed the rubber tires over the rims and glued them into place.

    Included 4-way Cross Wrench
    Included Hex Wrenches
    Oil Shocks and Accessories
    As I kept digging through all the parts, I realized that Kyosho did a great job of including almost everything you would need for assemble. The 4-way Cross Wrench and assorted hex wrenches were a nice touch. I don't know about you, but I can never seem to find the appropriate size hex wrench in my shop when I need it.

    The TF comes with the gear differential, front axle, front suspension arm, and rear axle already assembled for you. This cuts the build time down considerably. Well now that I've gone through all the parts and even built the big tires, it's time to get started on the actual assembly.
    Assembling the shocks
    Dremeling the burrs
    off the shocks
    Filling the shocks with included oil
    Building starts off with the assemble of the shocks. The only issue I had here was having to de-burr the shock (this is common in any car kit you build) after I removed them from the plastic sheets. My handy dandy Dremel did the job for me.

    The oil filled shocks are angle-mounted to provide progressive dampening. All you have to do is insert the 1-piece piston into the already assembled seals and fill with the included oil. Quick and simple.

    The TF comes with a two-link suspension system. It is as effective as multi-link designs, but has fewer parts that can wear out. Less parts to break is a very good thing in my book.
    Servo Saver
    Center differential
    Assembled Gearbox
    Gearbox mounted to plate
    Another view of Gearbox and chain
    Twin 550 motors mounted

    The Servo Saver consists of a set of pretty rigid ball connectors and a shaft connects them from the ball crank to the servo output arm. It has a knurled wheel on the pivot shaft allowing for tension adjustments to be made at the servo saver. The steering servo will mount upside down in the front half of the frame.

    For the steering servo, I would have to recommend you drop the bucks and pickup a digital with a ton of torque. The Futaba S9351 Digital High Torque Servo with 192 oz-in of torque would be a great choice and is decency priced at around $109. I skimped a little (OK, a lot) and used the Hobbico Command CS-70MG. While it provided me with adequate steering control (133 oz-in of torque), it just wasn't quite enough. Spend the cash, your TF will thank you for it.

    Next comes the assembly of the Gearbox. This is a very straight forward step. Just be sure to take your time and follow the instructions. I got sloppy here and didn't add any screw cement/Locktite to the set screw in the joint cup. Let's just say that I regret that now. After a few battery packs were run through it, the set screw worked its way loose and I had to disassemble and reassemble. So trust me, if it shows to Locktite, LOCKTITE!

    The drive train is powered by a pair of Kyosho 550 canned motors. These motors are enclosed in metal shields to concentrate the magnetic field and improve power. In English that means MORE POWER for you. The twin motors spin a pair of 18T pinions gears that spin a smaller slipper dampened, spur gear. Then the spur gear spins the chain pulley that that spins the long dog-bones that then spin the front and rear differentials. To put all that into English, this setup provides plenty of low end torque for wheelies, rock climbing and free flight.

    Most of the rest of the assembly of the TF is straight forward, so I'm just going to touch on some of it and attempt to highlight the features.

    Steering Servo mounted
    Battery Tray and Radio
    box mounted
    Wheelie bar installed
    A Sealed Radio/Rx Box helps to protects electronics against dust, dirt and water damage when you are bouncing through mud pits or rock climbing.

    After doing some research, my choice for electronics in the sealed radio box was the Traxxas EVX 14.4V model 3014 (manufactured by Novak) electronic speed control. A good fit for the Twin Force to optimize the twin motors and 14.4V dual batteries. The EVX was designed for the E-maxx, but fit perfectly into the radio box. The EVX has easy One-Touch Set-Up™ and a new feature they call Novak Electronics Smart Braking™ technology. You hit the reverse on your transmitter and the EVX applies powerful brakes to stop the truck before switching to full proportional reverse.

    The Chassis design is simple and not very pretty to look at, but definitely get the job done. The chassis consist of 2 2.3mm aluminum, ladder-frame chassis plates. These are stronger than plastic ones and lighter than flat-pan styles. It includes a pair of molded aluminum cross braces for added stability and support.

    The 2 battery trays are attached to the sides of the aluminum chassis. One tray on each size to help maintain the balance. The batteries are held in place by a plastic bar and a Carter-key style clip. This makes for convenient and easy battery changes. Just pull the pin, unplug the battery packs. The trays can hold either 6 or 7 cell battery packs.

    OK, enough about the construction. If you followed the instructions, you should be done in 3 to 4 hours. Let's see what the Twin Force can do!

    Test Drivin'

    Now that the Twin Force is ready to go, I slapped a couple pairs of Team Orion Super Duty plus 3000mAh Ni-MH batteries on my charger and then header for the front driveway. It was time to put the TF through the paces.

    Wheelie, Wheelie, Wheelie:
    How could I not. The TF comes standard with a built in wheelie bar, I had to use it. On a fully charged pack, it was hard to keep the front wheels on the ground, no matter what terrain it was on. With just a flick of the throttle, the font wheels are off the ground. I found that at about 1/4 throttle, if I went from 1/4 to Full throttle it would still pop a wheelie. You just gotta love it.

    Playing in the Flower Beds:
    Thought I'd see what kind of traction I could get and how the suspension would handle the rocks in the flower bed. The big tires of the TF threw mulch and dirt all over the place while tacking pretty well. I just had to remember that the EVX speed controller is proportional and that I didn't have to try to handle it at full throttle.

    Making a Turn
    Speeding away
    Attempting to roll
    Playing on Pavement:
    The TF is extremely quick off the line and has good acceleration, especially on a pair of freshly charged batteries. For a Monster Truck it tracks very well and the suspension floats decently well.

    The only thing I didn't like was the Center of Gravity. I know it's a monster truck and you aren't supposed to try to corner it at full throttle, but let be realistic! The TF is a little top heavy and if you aren't careful, it will roll if you cut the wheels too sharp. So you just have to back off the throttle a little when turning and you should be fine.

    With out a radar gun, I can only estimate, but the Twin Force on pavement appears to do about 22-25 MPH. Not bad for a electric powered monster truck.
    UP
    UP
    And Away!
    Playin' in the grass
    Cruisin' the woods
    Tearin' up the yard

    UP! UP! and AWAY!:
    As you can see by the numbers of pictures I've posted here, my TF likes to catch some air. IT has no problem getting up enough speed to leap from the ground. Here in Ohio we had so much rain, I couldn't take it to the local track to run, so we grabbed some plywood and used that for a ramp.

    Once we got the truck trimmer out, it was a breeze to hit the ramp straight on. The TF glided through the air pretty well and responded to throttle adjustments to bring the nose up or to level off the truck.

    Always greasing the landings was a little tough to do. The big bouncy tires made it a challenge. I just had to make sure the back tires touched down first. If the front tires landed first, over on it's top it would go.

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    Final Thoughts

    I think the Twin Force can be summed up as a HUGE FUN FACTOR! It isn't going to be a speedster at the track and you aren't going to be able to compete in the stadium truck A-main, but for a good time in mud, dirt of the grass it is definitely a winner.

    So if you are in the need for a wheelie poppin', mud slingin', rock climin', chain drivin', flippin' and flyin' monster truck in your garage, the Kyosho Twin Force should be the Monster Truck for you.


    Where to get the stuff


    Distributed Exclusively in the U.S.A. and Canada by:
    Great Planes Model Distr.
    P.O. Box 9021
    Champaign, IL 61826-9021


    Futaba Corporation of America
    Distributed Exclusively in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico by:
    Great Planes Model Distributors
    P.O. Box 9021; Champaign, IL 61826-9021
    Website: www.futaba-rc.com

    Traxxas
    1100 Klein Road
    Plano, Texas 75074
    Website: www.traxxas.com/index.htm
    email: support@Traxxas.com

    Comments on RCU Review: Kyosho Twin Force

    Posted by: B44&501xRacerEX on 04/09/2008
    I have raced my twin force in stock form against Revo's.Yes I was able to keep up with it in the monster truck class.Now against Truggies I doubt it would beat a truggy.My local track is gonna have a monster truck class.Many racers are running the new version of the E-maxx..etc..It is a race truck if you add Hotbodies Diffs and aHV maxx brushless system. :)
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